Saturday, 5 March 2011

New Attempted Defense of Genocide


From the epic fail logs...

Yes, we have a pretty new defense of the Amalekite genocide.

Point #1-The Amalekites were not sitting around playing tiddly-winks, committing various, pagan inspired acts of charity and leading the Ancient Near East toward any sort of awe-inspiring enlightenment. Quite the opposite in fact.


Ah yes, the "Amalekites were evil" defense. See, the Amalekites attacked the Jews on their exodus (which never happened - but we can assume it did for the purposes of the argument) and god now wants revenge. So, he waits for how many years and then has his people go and utterly wipe his enemies off the face of the Earth. Of course, those enemies are probably long since dead by the time god comes to punish their descendants for their heinous crime that god could have stopped, but thought it was better to let more people die so that he could come later and have a genocide.

Ah, but the Amalekites also killed their own children...so what better way to put a stop to that than wiping them all out, especially killing the children. Let's see those dead Amalekites kill their dead children now! That'll show 'em.

Point #2-The killing of the animals owned by the Amalekites actually had a purpose.


Yes, because genocide that doesn't make you wealthier somehow makes it OK?

Point #3-The weight of evidence suggests that God was being hyperbolic when he commanded the destruction of the Amalekites.


Yeah, right. And, god was being hyperbolic in all instances where he demands genocide, and it's clearly denoted in the text...oh wait, it's not. Of course, here the apologist is basically tossing out the Bible and saying that we can't trust god's word. If that's the way he wants to play it...well go ahead. I agree, let's not trust the Bible. Now, why is it that you're a Xian again Mr. apologist?

I really wish Xians would stop trying to defend such monstrous notions in the Bible and leave their tired, archaic, bloodthirsty, and evil superstitions behind. It's time that we all stepped into the modern age and stopped trying to live with and defend the petty and barbaric writings of past generations.

11 comments:

Kold_Kadavr_flatliner said...

Gosh, you're angry. I used to be that way, too, after our accident, but then I slowly grew-up (no #@!!) and learned to place my trust in Jesus. Jesus knows everything, we don't. Can you see around a corner whether a car's coming? Nope. That's why we have stop signs, which I rarely follow (sorry, Jesus). While on this earth, we have rules, but after we get to Heaven, thar won't be no rules, baby! Kick-ass!! And I'll kiss your adorable feet and nekk with you if you wanna. Yes, I'm head injured (also a mortal). Gimme a break...

Kold_Kadavr_flatliner said...

Perhaps no ones told you they loved you, they cherished you, that they would croak for you. I do, I would in a heatbeat. Sorry if you're of the species male... HeeHee

GCT said...

"Gosh, you're angry."

Why? Because atheists must be angry? Do you know how judgemental that is? I'd suggest that you actually peruse the blog to see what I've written so that you can understand better the content and where it's coming from.

"Yes, I'm head injured (also a mortal). Gimme a break..."

If you really have a brain injury, I'm sorry to hear that - I can also sympathize as someone who is a care-taker for a brain injured individual. It's no joke.

Anonymous said...

Nothing pisses me of more than people who accuse Jesus of what is writen in the Bible.

Nobody knows anything about Jesus. The consept of scriptural innerancy is just another form of Idolatry. Athiest that use scripture to proove God doesn't exist are a close cousin to the delusional religiouse that use the bible to proove God does exist.

Its a book. Nothing more nothing less. Would you use the Matrix or Star Wars as anything more than wicked awesome movies. To use the bible to glimpse the mind of God is no different than the mentally ill that belive the Soap operas are real.

GCT said...

"Athiest that use scripture to proove God doesn't exist are a close cousin to the delusional religiouse that use the bible to proove God does exist."

If theists are going to insist that god exists because the Bible tells the story or gives evidence/proof for god, then atheists should point out the inconsistencies, holes, and contradictions. I don't see why you can object to the atheists in that instance since it is reactionary. If you have a beef with anyone, you should have one with the theists that insist that the Bible is special.

That said, when you claim that the Bible is just a book, from where do you derive your ideas of Jesus and Yahweh? You've dug a hole, because without the Bible telling the actual story of god/Jesus, there's no reason to believe in the Xian story at all.

Tigerboy said...

Anonymous:

Atheists do not "use scripture to proove God doesn't exist." One cannot prove a negative. Prove to us that garden fairies don't exist. You can't! You can say only that the evidence for garden fairies is totally lacking.

Atheists do not even make the CLAIM that God doesn't exist. We claim that we do not find the idea to be credible. We claim that we find the story unconvincing.

The only "evidence" for the story of the divinity of Jesus Christ is that it was written about in the Bible. Without the Bible, no one ever would have heard of Jesus Christ! Outside of what is written in the Bible, evidence for the existence of Christ does not exist! (Or, it's highly-questionable.)

Jesus is just a character in "The Bible Matrix".

(Coming next summer: "The Bible Matrix 2, Revenge of the Molested Choirboys")

We atheists do not quote from the Bible in order to prove anything about the nonexistence of God. We use the Bible to show that the ONLY record of this Christ-person is a completely unreliable source. It's Iron Age bullshit. It has no credibility.

You are correct that it's just a book. It's a book that pushes a clear agenda. It's a book that attempts (quite successfully) to control people.

We have a moral obligation to criticize it.

Speaking of credibility, have you considered spending some time working on basic spelling?

Anonymous said...

People should not blame Jesus for the errors and sin of man. Jesus taught love and acceptance. What men do in the name of Jesus is not the word of Jesus. The Bible itself was written by men, and is filled with hate and judgement. It is a miracle that and of the love that Jesus taught made its way through. ...And nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say bad things about women or gays. Please differentiate between men/religion and Jesus.

GCT said...

How convenient for you. Everything you agree with came from Jesus. Everything you disagree with came from men. Of course, this just confirms that you have a separate source for morality that allows you to wade through the Bible and pick out the moral and immoral parts.

Also, you should be aiming this at the Dominionists that hate gays so much. Those people also claim to speak for Jesus, so you should battle it out with them to see who is right. Good luck with that though, as those arguments never get resolved.

Anonymous said...

WHAT A FILTHY COCKSUCKER HE IS. THE FILTHY FUCKIN SCUMBAG SHOULD NOT PUT PEOPLE ON THIS ROTTEN EARTH TO BEGIN WITH, IF THEY CAN'T FIND LOVE AND HAPPINESS.

Dr. Kold_Kadavr_flatliner, M.D. said...

Gosh, you're pissed - it's been sometime since I last visited and STILL you're pissed. Ain't nthn I can do bout that, brudda; however, if God doesn’t exist, why do you hate Him so much?? How can you hate someone who, in your eyes, doesn’t exist?? Strange. Satan is your God …yet, you prooo’bly doubt he exists anyway. What you don’t know is he controls your mind as he fills it with a lie --- Why don’t you follow us Home to Heaven Above if you‘re gonna croak as I am? How long do we have to enjoy this finite existence? 77ish, measly years? Compared to the length and breadth of eternity, 77ish years is like a dropOwater, a nanometer, in the whole, bloody, universe!! …quickly evaporating into nthn… Why don’t we have a BIG-ol, roxx-our-holy-soxx, party-hardy celebrating our resurrection for many eons? Heaven TOTALLY kicks-ass for eternity. PS see ‘P/C, unsanitized’ and feed-the-poor. Thank you proFUSEly, for the wick is running out on U.S. _thewarningsecondcoming.com_

Tigerboy said...

Is this is the best you got? Calling someone "pissed" does nothing to address the logical points he has made.

How many times must it be explained that atheists do not hate that which we consider to be fictional? Firstly, it's like asking someone why they hate the Keebler elves. It's ridiculous. Secondly, it's a REALLY old and tired question. (Is this yet another example of how Christians don't seem to be able to think for themselves? They seem to like to regurgitate the very same stuff they've heard over and over from other Christians.)

---Kold Kadavr asks: "If God doesn't exist, why do you hate Him so much?? How can you hate someone who, in your eyes, doesn't exist? Strange."

Well, Kold Kadavr, I've gotta say that you don't read very carefully. GTC has written COUNTLESS times that the blog title is hyperbole, and that, no, in fact, one cannot "hate" fictional characters. Countless times. One cannot expect to spend much time with this blog without reading it again and again.

My question to you is: Why do you ask a question that has been answered over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over? Really! How many times does the same foolish question need to be answered? You just want to ask pointless, repetitive, nonsensical questions.

What's truly strange (to me) is that you are not at all willing to engage in any real discussion of this very interesting topic. Why is that? I guess you are just COMPLETELY UNABLE to mount any serious attempt at a logical argument in defense of your wholly illogical superstitions. It's sad, really.

Why is it that you choose to believe in some illogical reality for which you cannot formulate even the most elementary defense?

It's pathetic.

You reason like a child would. (I want to live forever. Therefore, I believe I will.)